What does Arafat, Carter, and Gore have in common?

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Boaz	What does Arafat, Carter, and Gore have in common?		Lead	[-]
Posts: 433 10/12/07 16:54:22	Tags : None All winners of the Nobel Peace Prize...what a feckin joke! Your Signature ... *Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow. Don't walk behind me, I may not lead. Just walk beside me and be my friend.* In God I trust!
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YesThisisYoda		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1489 10/12/07 17:56:43 Still bending in the wind...	The Nobel prize does seem to be kind of left-leaning. Did Reagan get a Nobel Peace Prize before he died? He would have a been a good candidate for a Nobel prize, imho. King Vermin, The New Rat Creature Temple
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Nugitai		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 242 10/12/07 20:33:41	YesThisisYoda wrote: The Nobel prize does seem to be kind of left-leaning. Did Reagan get a Nobel Peace Prize before he died? He would have a been a good candidate for a Nobel prize, imho. Of course the Nobel prize is left-leaning; one of the defining characteristics of the left is that it is more dovish and less aggressive than the right. It's also worth mentioning that the year Arafat won the Nobel Peace Prize, Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Rabin also won; the Nobel Committee was acknowledging the fact that these three men made an extremely difficult and challenging (and ultimately failed) attempt to end the crisis in the Middle East. Reagan did everything he could to escalate the Cold War, essentially pitting us in a dangerous game of "chicken" against the world's other major nuclear power, and showed that he valued the spread of capitalism above human rights with his support of the Nicaraguan Contras. Not exactly the best candidate for a Nobel Peace Prize. At any rate, it's very rare for a sitting U.S. president to win the Nobel Peace Prize; the only two who ever have are Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson. Carter won it more than two decades after his presidency was over, for his post-presidency work - and he absolutely deserved it. Say what you will about his presidency, but the man has done more to eradicate infectious parasites in Africa than almost anyone before or since.
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Anne Sally		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1575 10/12/07 21:08:42 TRCT Poster Girl	YesThisisYoda wrote: Did Reagan get a Nobel Peace Prize before he died? He would have a been a good candidate for a Nobel prize, imho. For what reasons?
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YesThisisYoda		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1489 10/12/07 21:12:52 Still bending in the wind...	Reagan was a master of foreign policy, and even though he took a hardline stance in the Cold War, he actually helped to bring the Cold War to a close (although, admittedly, Gorbachev deserves much of the credit). King Vermin, The New Rat Creature Temple
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Anne Sally		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1575 10/12/07 21:14:26 TRCT Poster Girl	YesThisisYoda wrote: Reagan was a master of foreign policy, and even though he took a hardline stance in the Cold War, he actually helped to bring the Cold War to a close How? Through his Star Wars project?
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YesThisisYoda		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1489 10/12/07 21:18:49 Still bending in the wind...	Well, that may have been part of it, but I think Reagan's success came largely through the image he presented to the Soviet leadership. He was an actor, and he used his skills to project an image of a strong, capable leader who was willing to risk total annihilation in his bid against the "empire of evil." Under Carter's administration, the Soviets began an unprecedented build-up of arms in order to bridge the gap in the arms race while Carter promoted the idea of unilateral disarmament. Reagan took an opposite approach from Carter, forcing the Soviets to begin backpeddling. Truth be told, though, I'm probably on thin ice in nominating Reagan for a Nobel Peace Prize. I'm kind of just grasping at straws and trying to think of a conservative leader who would be a potential nominee for the Peace Prize, and Reagan is the only conservative leader in recent history who I can think of that had a significant (and largely positive) impact on world history. King Vermin, The New Rat Creature Temple
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Anne Sally		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1575 10/12/07 21:21:08 TRCT Poster Girl	YesThisisYoda wrote: Well, that may have been part of it, but I think Reagan's success came largely through the image he presented to the Soviet leadership. He was an actor, and he used his skills to project an image of a strong, capable leader who was willing to risk total annihilation in his bid against the "empire of evil." LOL, and there you were dissing actors for getting involved in politics, too funny!
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Anne Sally		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1575 10/12/07 21:21:51 TRCT Poster Girl	YesThisisYoda wrote: Truth be told, though, I'm probably on thin ice in nominating Reagan for a Nobel Peace Prize. I'm kind of just grasping at straws Are you ever!
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YesThisisYoda		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1489 10/12/07 21:26:16 Still bending in the wind...	Anne Sally wrote: LOL, and there you were dissing actors for getting involved in politics, too funny! YO: Well, not exactly. I don't have a problem with actors (or anyone else) getting into politics. However, I expect them to display capable leadership skills and educate themselves in political science. Reagan ably transitioned from a career on the screen to a career in the state government of California, and later as President. He left his acting career behind and threw himself completely into political leadership. What troubles me is when career actors have the gall to comment on politics with an air of authority, simply by token of the fact that they happen to be famous. It's when actors comment as actors that I'm bothered; not when they comment as actual politicians. King Vermin, The New Rat Creature Temple
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YesThisisYoda		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1489 10/12/07 21:26:53 Still bending in the wind...	Anne Sally wrote: Are you ever! YO: Well, I'd like to see who Hiram would nominate for the Nobel Peace Prize. Any ideas Hiram? King Vermin, The New Rat Creature Temple
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Anne Sally		#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1575 10/12/07 21:28:19 TRCT Poster Girl	I'd like to see Princess Di nominated posthumously!
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YesThisisYoda		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1489 10/12/07 21:30:02 Still bending in the wind...	How come? King Vermin, The New Rat Creature Temple
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Anne Sally		#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1575 10/12/07 21:43:46 TRCT Poster Girl	Because I think she did more for peaceful relations between people than anyone else. Granted, there wasn't much peace in her own marriage but she championed causes that most people wouldn't go near with a bargepole, especially royalty. She put her face and love to HIV/AIDS, landmines, homeless people, depression and mental illness, and most causes that society shuns or which carries shame and stigma. She was a beautiful woman inside and out and I loved her. May she rest in peace. sob
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YesThisisYoda		#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1489 10/12/07 21:45:30 Still bending in the wind...	Yeah, I was sad to see her go, too, and I was only like 13 at the time. I wouldn't mind seeing her get a Nobel prize, though, if they could be awarded after death. King Vermin, The New Rat Creature Temple
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Anne Sally		#15	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1575 10/12/07 21:47:14 TRCT Poster Girl	I loved her, I really miss her in the world, even today.
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Nugitai		#16	[url]	[-]
Posts: 242 10/12/07 22:19:42	YesThisisYoda wrote: Anne Sally wrote: LOL, and there you were dissing actors for getting involved in politics, too funny! YO: Well, not exactly. I don't have a problem with actors (or anyone else) getting into politics. However, I expect them to display capable leadership skills and educate themselves in political science. Reagan ably transitioned from a career on the screen to a career in the state government of California, and later as President. He left his acting career behind and threw himself completely into political leadership. What troubles me is when career actors have the gall to comment on politics with an air of authority, simply by token of the fact that they happen to be famous. It's when actors comment as actors that I'm bothered; not when they comment as actual politicians. Yoda, I've only recently begun to suspect that you're capable of thinking clearly, but - don't you think it's a little absurd to think a leader's charisma can bring an empire to its knees? That's the image that conservatives like to cast of Reagan - that his presence was so damn commanding, the entire Soviet Union panicked and fell into ruin. To me, that is laughable. I mean, what's the claim - that the Soviets were so wowed by the image of this man that they became disloyal to their government? (I doubt most Soviets ever saw him speak, translated into Russian). Or perhaps that the Soviet leadership was so awed by his presence that they simply lost their natural "potency" and became empty shells of men, rife for the overthrowing? Character simply doesn't bring a nation to its knees. Wars and economics and plagues do, but not one man's character. And the Soviet Union collapsed largely for economic reasons. Reagan got lucky. I'd love to see a person go over to Russia and claim that the Soviet Union collapsed because Reagan was FUCKING AWESOME. Let's see how well that claim goes over.
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Norrin Ratt		#17	[url]	[-]
Posts: 227 10/13/07 00:49:28	I was hoping Rush would get the award. Your Signature ... Well THAT was a slap and a tickle!
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Boaz		#18	[url]	[-]
Posts: 433 10/13/07 11:54:53	Norrin Ratt wrote: I was hoping Rush would get the award. Or Michael Savage. I think we need a recount! There might of been some dangling or hanging chads when they voted. Your Signature ... *Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow. Don't walk behind me, I may not lead. Just walk beside me and be my friend.* In God I trust!
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YesThisisYoda		#19	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1489 10/13/07 12:02:54 Still bending in the wind...	Michael Savage?! lol King Vermin, The New Rat Creature Temple
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Boaz		#20	[url]	[-]
Posts: 433 10/13/07 12:36:30	YesThisisYoda wrote: Michael Savage?! lol Yeah, he is so conservative that he calls Rush and Sean Hannity liberals! Seriously though, Dr. Savage is brilliant! You should listen to him from time to time. Your Signature ... *Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow. Don't walk behind me, I may not lead. Just walk beside me and be my friend.* In God I trust! Last Edited By: Boaz 10/13/07 12:38:36. Edited 1 time.
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